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The Gray Divorce with Neale Godfrey

April 13, 2022 | by Patricia M. Barbarito

When her husband texted a ‘this isn’t working’ message while she was horseback riding in Spain, New York Times bestselling author Neale Godfrey thought he was referring to the toaster, not that divorce proceedings were underway. Her shock at learning the truth and her experience with the realities of ending a marriage late in life fuel this candid conversation with host (and her own divorce lawyer) Pat Barbarito.


Highlights include:

  • Evaluating why you want to end the marriage (when the choice is yours) and whether you should consider staying;
  • Recruiting the right members of Team YOU to provide clarity, guidance, and support during the emotional confusion of divorce proceedings;
  • Improving your knowledge of your family’s accurate and comprehensive financial picture, including income, assets, debt, taxes, etc.;
  • Preparing for the difficult but necessary conversations about money with your spouse, children, and others;
  • Considerations when discussing long-term life insurance, pension plans, retirement accounts, and more.

BONUS: Neale chats about how bright post-divorce life is and her number one piece of advice for becoming truly happy and financially secure after the legalities are final.

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About Neale Godfrey

Neale Godfrey is the financial voice for women and multi-generations and a world-renowned speaker and author, who has inspired millions through her work. She motivates, trains, educates, and frankly, entertains by delivering her core message: Empower yourself to take control of your financial life. An author of 28 books, Neale is most recognized as The New York Times #1 Best-Selling Author of Money Doesn’t Grow on Trees: A Parent’s Guide to Raising Financially Responsible Children. Her book on The Gray Divorce is expected to be published in 2024. To learn more about Neale, please click here.

About Heartbreak & Hope

Heartbreak and Hope PodcastCo-managing partner and divorce lawyer Pat Barbarito thought she knew all about complex relationships and the laws that govern them – until her own marriage of 17 years ended and she determined to get to the heart of love, marriage, and human connection. Her journey spanned the entire scope of relationships – from the science of attraction to the financial impact of separation, to old myths that society still touts as true to new laws that outline how to navigate both uniting and uncoupling.

Heartbreak & Hope with Pat Barbarito offers insights, anecdotes, and guidance from a variety of experts and includes her own perspective on how best to thrive through any stage of relationship building.



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